You just know that the AI bubble is going to break and they're going to be stuck with tons of HBM4s.

The big problem is that this will not depress the consumer DRAM market and mean we can all afford DRAM again

I'm sure you can make it work with HBM chips on adapter boards for PC. And there should be lots of HBM chips from scavengers taking apart bankrupt data centers.

HBM dies are designed to be physically mounted on top of other dies in the same package, they can have up to 2048 data pins (compared to 8-64 on consumer dies which are in their own packaging) - to do what you propose you'd need an interposer chip of some type which would push the price back up

If there is enough scrap chips & enough demand, I can still see it work.

So essentially the same thing the AI companies are doing

When Chinese companies do it, then it is evil price dumping.

When US companies do it, then it is just good business strategy, investing in growth for future profits.

Do US companies have free access to Chinese markets?

More than vice versa.

I love this sort of reply.

Yes, the bastion of free market capitalism is no much different than the evil communist countries.

One mechanism by which the US encourages free market capitalism is requiring reciprocity. China is not evil - they are just self interested - and it is the responsibility of the US government to negotiate a trade agreement that benefits its citizens.

> US

> reciprocity

Funny joke. Everybody laughs. Curtains.

China has an awful lot of billionaires for a communist country.

Neither appellation is true and probably never was.

Blackrock used to be pretty wild-west (I was going before Burning Man started), pretty scary stuff at times (a friend once did something silly and hurt himself badly, Clinton was doing something in Reno, the SS heard about it, thought it was nearby and MiB showed up looking hot and bothered in their suits), over time the BLM realised that they needed to police the area a bit more and things got toned down (doesn't help that BM situates itself across multiple law enforcement jurisdictions, these days there's a surfeit of police)

Raise your hand if you remember 'drive-by camp'

From my observation Scientology starts by teaching you to be selfish, more self assertish, in the process you end up pushing your friends and family away, but guess what, you have some new friends in the 'church'

Just in case anyone here finds themselves falling into their world I'll save you $0.5M: all your problems are caused by you being infested with murdered space aliens

Maybe, but Norway should still wait until the inevitable AI crash

They're from roughly the same era (and the same as 68020s/396s/88ks/mips) - 29ks came out of AMD and sadly didn't fly as high as we hoped at the time - their unique stack management may have been part of that

I'd say the insane bus arrangements on released chips (unrelated to ISA itself) had more to say there - the 3 & 4 bus configurations only make sense if you're throwing a bunch of extra chips onto it to make a proper CPU module that will expose sensible single bus to the world. Instead you effectively got a harvard architecture design in way that is least helpful.

I think that has more to do with the amount you could get onto a die at that time, architecturally they had to move the MMU onboard first which left the cache(s) offboard

It's more that they implemented it for higher speed as the split bus meant instruction fetches didn't block data fetches and vice versa - but it meant that without glue logic you turned a von neumann architecture into half-broken harvard one (because there's no support for copying data between the buses).

Some of the models had normal bus that didn't require unusual things like dual ported memory controller or other weirdness.

The other thing he doesn't mention is time, I live in AoNZ and we do get free shipping from Digikey if we order over a minimum (~$60US) - but the big deal is time - you have to order everything you need ahead of time and get it all to arrive - miss one thing and you're stuck with a PCB and a box of bits and are sitting on your hands for a couple of weeks - you have to be incredibly organised - it's why I have a cabinet of SMD reels most of which I'll never use (reels of common components are ~$2 while visiting Shenzhen a couple of hundred $$ saves you a bunch of pain)

Living in the US and having free overnight delivery is 1st world luxury

ESP32-P31s are cheap - samples are cheap ($5-6 for WROOM modules) production prices are going to be lower - and twice the number of pins ESP32s are known for (but say goodbye to castelated modules hand soldering is going to be harder)

"but say goodbye to castelated modules hand soldering is going to be harder"

Yes, the package will be less friendly to DIY assembly. The greater number of GPIO are definitely welcome however: it's a high feature device and they are needed.

I wonder if it gets the moon the right way up in the southern hemisphere

i would not underestimate the tomfoolery Xiaomi is doing to give the impression their phone can take a zoomed in photo of the moon. It's pretty tasteless in my opinion

Not even: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO