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Tesla doesnt have offering in 30k market, which is likely different story, design and component sharing is important to cut cost. Also, Teslas are premium segment, thus can afford to go extreme.

You can buy the Model 3 for $37k, which is not far off $30k, and definitely not in the premium segment.

I think that non-premium 37k model is available for few months only? I can argue that its subproduct of premium segment infra/design.

Yeah the M3 is the low-medium budget EV to beat (in US market). A few are cheaper (equinox, bolt, leaf), but most are at that price or higher.

> entry-level, low cost, highly analogue

there is a chance that slapping one screen is now lower cost than few dozens mechanical knobs, connectors and sensors


There is also a chance I won't buy a car without knobs. Car software has been historically so bad. My latest doesn't have a volume knob so my front passengers can't turn the volume at all (the UX is sliding the screen from the side to get navigation bars to appear which contain a volume button that you have to drag laterally - no increase/decrease software buttons). Otherwise it's a great car and that is literally the one drawback.

I must be the minority surely, but given the choice between knobs and screen, knobs are the deciding factor. Even if it's more expensive, it's UX that you use permanently while operating heavy machinery!


Yeah, please have knobs. I don't mind a bit of screen, but all the frequent stuff I want in knobs.

Eh...I honestly don't care anymore.

Provided there's steering wheel and stalk controls, what do I really need to adjust on a center console while driving? I just want a big nav map or camera feed there.


This is the problem with the world these days. People just don't care about anything anymore.

Temperature? Music? Defroster?

My 2004 Prius had AC, radio and defogger controls on the steering wheel. I could control all of it without taking my hands off the wheel.

The only notable thing I couldn't do was adjust the fan level if it was on automatic, but I could turn it off.

IMO if you might need it while driving it should be on the wheel or the stalks. Center console? That's for my passenger to mess with only, or for when I'm stopped.


I mean that's probably a perfectly nice solution too, it doesn't all have to be as physical controls on a center console. It just needs to be easily accessible physical controls which I can interact with through feel without taking my eyes off the road. As long as it's not on a touch screen and not those shitty haptic capacitive buttons I don't care whether it's on a steering wheel or on a center console

Id argue by an order of magnitude. Knobs require cables, connectors and assembly; they also require dedicated robots and/or a human to test them in the assembly line.

> I've tested everything. Xfce, tiling window managers, kde. Eventually I settled on Gnome

did you check cinnamon? Imo its the most user friendly and boring + batteries DE..


Why do you create separate account for each comment?.. Some glitch in automatic tool?

I've been seeing a crap load of comments from new accounts like this on politically charged threads. Must be some botnet campaign.

> US proxy war in Ukraine

how its US proxy war?


In the beginning of the war, the US was the biggest sponsor and it took quite sometime to convince France then Germany to join with the same commitment.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/31/ukraine-crisis-ques...


They all sent very light weapons, hundreds AT at best, and refused to sell weapons because afraid to piss Russia

especially given how they fund their billions from 401k through rapid inclusion into indexes, building DCs near residential areas, stealing IP, regulatory capture and hype driving manipulations.

we don't really know if Ukrainians buy it on aliexpress or through European supply chains.

some US companies benefit from that act for sure.

> why Anthropic is worse than OpenAI

Anthropic is trying to kill open models way harder


> Every major AI shop has a ton of in-house classifiers already, big, small, generalist

I think building generalist classifier is some open ended research task, where frontier labs can contribute: different internal reasoning, instruction tuning, building datasets and benchmarks, building and distilling super large models.


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