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I’m sure I’m an outlier out here in the boonies but they are consistently slower than the other 3 carriers out here.

They have something I want. Usually that’s to check an account for a status update on a service or organization, or view a link that’s been sent to me.

I was fine with occasionally wading into the shit pile for something I want. It’s fine, the door is open and I don’t live there. Get in get out.

But now they want me have a shit address and shit suit and a shitmail. They want me to say hey its me mr shit can you let me in so can I have some of that delicious shit?

Instead I think I’ll just put on a hazmat suit and steal the few pieces I want from their shit pile and get out.

Boycotting them is pointless. Holding to your principals does nothing but hinder your own usage of the internet and does not help bring about the end of X or whoever else. The 0.5% of X users using xcancel disappearing overnight would have no impact.

These monoliths of Internet consolidation are not worth our consideration. Steal their content, block their ads, get on with your life.


Oh man I had forgotten about last measure. I remember multiple times scrambling for the power button.


And also the more innocent “You Are An Idiot, hahaha hahaha” page that would sing those words and spam pop up windows with white and black text blinking, that would float around the screen. Every time you click close on one window, two new ones pop up.

With that one, Ctrl+Alt+Delete, Task Manager, kill iexplore.exe was usually all you needed to do thankfully. No hard power off necessary.


I was just talking about that one with someone a few days ago! Amazing hahah XD I still remember the song and was singing it while laughing profusely at how obnoxious that site was!


You have to actually look not just get spoon fed by the algorithm. Community is how you find music. Subreddits, forums, record stores. You find reviewers with similar tastes and see what they like. You search “bands like X” on the Internet. You keep up with artists you like and watch for new albums. It’s more active than just letting the algorithm feed you stuff but it works. Also radio still exists and public radio especially is still great for discovery.

Or if you’re ripping your CDs and listening via apps you can just scrobble and get algo recommendations still while owning your music and without a monthly fee.


If you don’t want to commit to one of the vibecoded no community arr clones for books then i recommend shelfmark. Lightweight grabber, easy to start with, easy to rip out later.


I never bothered with nitter until elon made the site unusable for people not signed in. If he undid the changes and then sold the company I’d probably a bother to update the url the next time my nitter redirects stopped working.


It’s not that the content is not available on the Internet it’s that it’s a better experience. Indexed high quality content that can be retrieved automatically and at high speed without the need to seed or worry about copy strikes or deal with ever changing, poor quality streaming sites.


I can’t think of any prominent ones outside of country code domains.


You can almost guess someone's age from that alone - they're more rare, but long domain names still appear that encode a city and a state, and you could just "grab" the first part when signing up.


Outside of the context of ccTLDs and city.state.gov etc, I struggle to think of examples 3LD+ domains where they are owned and operated by completely different concerns than the parent. If at some point you could just register your own mysite.state.gov domains willy nilly that's probably before my initial time online around 2000.

Another poster raised the point of hosting services which is valid. But at present outside of that example and the above I really can't think of an example where you have a link to entity.com and you have any significant cause to verify the identity beyond the 2LD.


Many services today support vanity domains - Google even has special support for it: https://publicsuffix.org/list/public_suffix_list.dat


Tangential, but why call out Google specifically? PSL is widely used: https://publicsuffix.org/learn/


All Indian banks use bankname.bank.in as their domain. I’m not sure who owns bank.in but this is a common suffix which is different from the .co.uk pattern.


IDRBT Institute for Development and Research in Banking Technology


I remember I had beach.santa-cruz.ca.us at one point registered to me. I owned beach.santa-cruz.ca.us, someone else owned santa-cruz.ca.us, yet someone else owned ca.us, and I believe Network Solutions took care of .us at the time.


You say "registered" to you as though this was via an official registrar but surely you mean that someone rented ca.us and decided on their own to lease out subdomains to people?

(Aside, I always see "owned" and "bought" but you can only ever "lease" under the ICANN system as the present situation so clearly demonstrates.)


Historically, xx.us (where xx is a two letter state code) domains have been owned* by the named US state, which then would issue subdomains on top. I believe this was originally planned and set up by ICANN themselves.

*: I realize that “owned” is a loaded word here, but (1) I’m referring to a registrar/issuer, which makes it yet more complicated as to how much “ownership” (de facto or otherwise) a given entity may have, and (2) I really don’t give a fuck about pedantic word choice if the meaning is unambiguous.


My aside wasn't intended to be pedantic, rather observing the apparent inconsistency in how it appears people think about these matters versus what the present situation illustrates the reality to be.

> but (1) I’m referring to a registrar/issuer, which makes it yet more complicated

We're also talking about a ccTLD which makes it even more complicated. AFAIK those fall entirely under the jurisdiction of the respective UN recognized government although I don't know how strong that agreement is in practice (treaty versus something else).

So at that point I guess we've roughly got ICANN -> US federal government -> CA state government -> registrar -> private party -> sublet.


The way it worked is that someone nominally representing the CA State Government had* ca.us, and they in turn gave* san-jose to someone who nominally represented San Jose, los-angeles to someone who nominally represented Los Angeles, santa-cruz to someone who nominally represented Santa Cruz, and so on. city-name.ca.us domains were still free (and charging for .com and .org domains was a new thing at the time); you would look in the zone file to see who owned* a given domain, email them with your nameserver names and IP, and they would add it to their zone.

This isn’t how things are done these days; names visible to the public are pretty much always in the form {domain}.{tld} or sometimes {name}.{domain}.{tld} (e.g. my own https://samboy.github.io). Registration is now done by bots and companies that spam you to death to try and get more money from you (the Internet wasn’t like that in the beach.santa-cruz.ca.us days). Domain names with multiple levels of delegation aren’t around they way they used to be.

* rented/leased/had control over/whatever


> This isn’t how things are done these days

The old locality domains still exist, and in many localities you can still register them today by the same "email a request to some sysadmin" process. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48122635

Your beach.santa-cruz.ca.us domain is still in DNS, just with a broken delegation chain. You could reclaim it right now by setting up a nameserver at reality.samiam.org.


I’m amazed beach.santa-cruz.ca.us is still around. I’ve given it some SSL certs and have reclaimed it:

https://beach.santa-cruz.ca.us/

Thanks for checking the zone files of the parent domain to verify it’s still there.


Wait what haha. Do you also own samiam.org?


Judging by his username (strenholme) and the contents of https://samiam.org/ (Sam Trenholme's webpage), he does indeed!


  > AFAIK those fall entirely under the jurisdiction of the respective UN recognized government
How does that work for e.g. Taiwan, where the UN recognises the mainland government's claim to sovereignty in practice?


It's complicated and political, like always. Officially, the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country code list is used to decide who gets a ccTLD. (And Taiwan is included there.) But for example ".su" still exists for historical reasons, even though the Soviet Union is long gone (and its code is listed as "exceptionally reserved", which I assume translates as "we have no fucking idea what to do here.")


This raises an interesting question. If they aren't strictly following UN recognition then would it be possible for ICANN to award control to one party while the UN recognizes an opposing party as the legitimate government?


Github Pages is probably the most well known one (on here).

I think geocities had this as well?

A lot of hosting services offer this in general. (eg render)

Tumblr? (Might not count as the control over the page is more limited. The subdomains "are" still tumblr.)

For reddits subdomains are redirects to subreddits of the same name, so I guess that doesn't count.


None of these examples are of actual separate registration/ownership of a 3LD from the parent 2LD. Cloudflare owns the domain for myproject.pages.dev and hosts all the relevant infra. Not to say that there isn't a different entity represented by the 3LD than the 2LD but it's not exactly the same.

Also I would not consider the examples of tumblr and reddit to be relevant. A person's blog on myprofile.tumblr.org is still the tumblr organization. This would be true for reddit even if they didn't redirect. Reddit admins moderate content on all subreddits.


I see, that's a valid way to think of domain ownership.

When I read > I have been taught and tell my users to check the domain to verify a website is real.

I was thinking more of control of the content as "ownership" of the domain.


The point on hosting providers is well taken. You do have to consider x.pages.dev as the wild west not cloudflare of course. One difference though is you will never receive an email from x.pages.dev asking you to do something. The domain ownership still does play a part.


You can buy example.it.com on many registrars. Someone bought it.com and operates it like a TLD.


Interesting. I do wonder how many people outside scammers and squatters buy them. I'd rather have an .xyz or .biz address personally.


When someone defames at SEO-optimized large-company.it.com, then Large Company gets interested.

Or, more succinctly, when money gets involved.


You can wrench on the front brake at speed, you just can’t do it from the saddle. Gotta move your center of mass back and down.


300k would put you in the top 5% of households and 3-4x the median household, let alone single earners. You are absolutely beyond “comfortably middle class” with that salary.


Where? Not in the Bay Area. $300k is middle class there.


I would bet that’s still top 5% for individual earners in the Bay Area. Do you think 300k is anywhere near average?


It's double the median income of the most expensive cities in the bay area for a 4 person household


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