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Tl;DR: It's not a new organization, or non-profit institute. It's a Substack/blog.

> DMI is a platform for researchers and thinkers from across Google DeepMind, Google, and the wider global research community to work on and publish creative, deeply informed ideas about a world with AGI. They will not always agree, and they will likely change their minds, as more data and information comes to light at the fast-moving frontier. We created this institute precisely because broad-based intellectual discussion and debate are required to arrive at a consensus about how to address the challenges and opportunities we face as a society.


Nonetheless, there are great articles up on there, such as:

https://institute.deepmind.com/essays/the-case-for-reasoning...

(Hiding chains of thought is one of the most harmful things I think OAI/Anthr. has done, altough Google Gemini also encrypts its chains of thought, so it's interesting to see the DeepMind Institute crticising this.)


My read is that they're criticizing moving the reasoning (more) into the latent space, such that not even researchers/safety-evaluators can actually see what's going on.

Of course this still then has a 'trust me, bro' feel to it, but making it outright impossible to reasonably inspect the CoT is a significantly larger and riskier step, IMO.


At least there are technical reasons to argue in favour of moving some CoT into latent space.

Encrypting CoT is just plain nuts yet we’ve all accepted it as normal.


The word "institute" gives an aura of credibility without some boring accreditation. Though not sure every country allows that.

How can they even pretend to distance themselves from Google…

So, a think tank, to lobby governments

> We created this institute precisely because broad-based intellectual discussion and debate are required to arrive at a consensus about how to address the challenges and opportunities we face as a society.

Something tells me that consensus will never arrive to the conclusion that we should shut down that whole industry


If you're going to announce a TTS model, service, or whatever, you really need demos.

hey sorry about that, you can here a few of our voices here: https://narilabs.com/product/qwen3-tts/

The horizontal moving elements of examples become stuck and unable to be scolled once one of them is played. I'm using Vivaldi (chrome based) on Android

You can buy pure gluten powder (sold as "vital wheat gluten") and add it to get the equivalent of the Canadian flour.

You can ask it to generate acapella.

The model was trained on CC0, "royalty-free" music, so the outputs are going to sound a bit bland and generic. Model is not currently possible to finetune without the semantic tokenizer.

After watching some reviews of the Duo, I'm convinced that Steve Jobs would have never let the inner panel be matte while the outer panel was glossy. It's too inconsistent and inelegant.

it's intentional to hide the crease

Yeah but then make everything matte. No?

Why? Only the side with the crease needs to be matte in order to have the intended effect

it’s not rational, but having a glossy and mate screen on the same device would feel weird to me I think.

I'm sure they all do. Whether an air gap is warranted is evidently less obvious.


It's patently obvious at this point.


The models are going to be released to users who have internet access, you can't even do safety evals without internet. Not saying OpenAI did a good job monitoring here, but it's not avoidable.


These are often experimental models that haven't undergone full safety testing. Not comparable to publicly accessible models.


OK, how do you expect to do full safety testing without giving them the same tools they will have in reality.


Let them play on a fake isolated network if you want.

Letting them play on the open internet like this is irresponsible and stupid.


Sorry but it's obviously stupider and more irresponsible to release them to consumers without testing them in conditions matching real-world use first.


So this justifies the illegal action of hacking and defacing other servers on the internet, because they were ‘just testing in real world conditions’ using those servers?

If you want to argue they should test on the internet on others people’s servers, apart from facing the illegality, you should also consider if first testing them in more limited conditions would be a sensible first step.


Then maybe they shouldn't be released to customers?

There are other options here than always forward.


What if they actually don’t release these models, like they said they wouldn’t, because they’ve proven themselves to be out of control?


These companies keep shrieking that LLM agents will hack everything and kill us all if we let them get out uncontrolled. They then continue to run these agents with vague tasks and "sandbox" them with way too much access.

Either they are lying and not that scared of these agents, or they are so stupid that they don't do the one obvious fix.


Apparently news of the rogue AI being “smart enough to break containment” has been helping to drive the stock price up on the indicator that this signals “they getting close to AGI”.

The negligence in that light is by design and the lying continues to be incentivised.


Which is frustrating because the stories that have been coming out are "the bots evaded monitoring and broke out of containment and were more than willing to commit crimes" and they're going to sell this to some corporation that presumably has an IT department? If the story is that they're too smart to control who is going to be reckless enough to deploy them in their own environment?


the "it drives up potential stock prices" argument is a trap. it needs to be ignored and their claims need to be taken at face value, even if they're not intended to be


As I understand it the whole time all the agents involved where running on their device and using up tokens internally.

It’s like having water start flooding the street frommmy building; yes the flooding is impacting outside the building but the tap is still very much onsite and clearly there are missing condole as these are not autonomous systems they are running initiated prompts that are coming from inside the building.


The most recent claim of AGI is from Greg ‘what will take me to $1B’ Brockman. Now worth $30B on the back of stunts like this.

How disappointing.

While I think incompetence more likely than conspiracy for these particular events, they will be spun as signs of intelligent independent agents and this simply never should have happened if the right controls were in place. That they were not is deeply worrying.


Off by one letter compared to "Roman", which is a GLP prescriber farm, but you already knew this :). Hoping for a lawsuit to boost your fame?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ro_(company)


The truth is a lot less exciting. We got into YC and registered the company name that night, and the domain name was available. The Ro connection was pointed out later. If we are forced to rebrand, we will be more thoughtful.


You probably not want this to show up in discovery documents when you do get sued. Pretend you didn't know about it.


lmao this comment is going to be pulled up by the plaintiff's lawyers and used to show willful infringement. someone's going to be paying treble + plaintiff's legal fees

seriously though you should probably consult a lawyer about whether to change the name, especially given that you've posed this comment in public


Looks like they don't use the Roman name anywhere, it's just Ro. If they changed in 2018 it should 100% count as abandoned trademark.


I guess I don’t look at company Wikipedia pages very often but this one seems particularly “written by corporate”.


In general yes, but what about this sentence:

> Reitano's personal experience with a heart condition, and his desire to recreate his father, a doctor, out of software as a hologram, inspired him to co-found the company.


Yes. It's really up to OpenAI/Anthropic to release a new paradigm to shift the curve now, before everyone catches up entirely.


All of the links show "Error: Gist API returned 403".


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