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I don't think it is comparable. Nowhere in the news they say it is offline but IMO Gemini Nano is offline (?)

I'm not a Google fan but I never understood the outrage as it is a local model ... sure, you have to trust them, but if you use their browser you already do.


The outrage about Gemini Nano in Chrome was the surprise extra 4GB download plus their attempt to expose it as a non-standard browser API, IIRC.

> Nowhere in the news they say it is offline

Reading HN, I 100% understood “private” to be marketing copy for “local inference”.

How else could the information be kept private?

I begrudgingly suppose that there is precedent for the usage, like Apple’s Private Relay, but I really don’t think they are comparable.


> conversations aren’t saved on Mozilla’s servers by default, and partners like Mistral agree to zero data retention.

I don't read this as offline ...


People only read the headline, and the headline lies.

> Reading HN, I 100% understood “private” to be marketing copy for “local inference”.

Pretty ironic then that here, Mozilla is specifically labeling their "we send it all to the cloud" service as "private."


So does duckduckgo with their duck.ai. No outrage there.

I mean encryption is a real thing (Edward Snowden sometimes would simply say "Encryption works" in online Q and As) and there are ways to do zero knowledge data crunching Eleven while interacting with servers. Kim DotCom famously launched Mega as a zero knowledge file host after his legal issues with with megaupload, and lots of apps and services across the internet have been doing the version of this even with online services in the ensuing decade and a half. For instance I use StandardNotes which is online but encrypted.

I have no idea the extent to which any of that speaks to the Mozilla thing in this context, and local is preferable if that's achievable. And of course you should always do due diligence on what exactly is and isn't being promised when it comes to sending your data to the cloud, it certainly is possible to do that in privacy preserving ways. It's not a doubt about the technology so much as a question of institutional credibility.


New apple watch markets their new listening feature as private, but they are not happening on device.

>like Apple’s Private Relay

Reading this as “Private Cloud Compute“ (PCC)

(Not iCloud Private Relay, the VPN)


Private here means "trust me, bro".

A first step of Valhalla that is ...

For some reason, I’m picturing a Western right now, and climate change is a herd of wild horses coming after us. And with AI that's like robots that spur the wild horses even faster towards us...

Somehow Hetzner saw at least part of it coming in 2018

https://www.hetzner.com/pressroom/five-years-helsinki/

These low prices are cost savings that we pass directly onto our customers; they come from the reduced energy prices that we pay in Finland compared to Germany, and also come from the colder climate and lower cooling requirements


If 4.2 (or 4.1) is really the annual coefficient of performance (turn 1kWh electric energy into 4.2kWh heat energy) then this is a very good value.

Because heating water requires higher temperature differences (usually heat pumps get more inefficient then). And with an "ordinary" (propane) heat pump you get such high numbers only in summer time (>=20°C) and for water temperatures of max 50°C.


See: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1206310

name:en=Lake Ontario

vs.

official_name:en-US=Lake America


Not sure it's really valid to call this "official". Trump can issue an executive order to the USGS to change names in the GNIS, but the use of USGS/GNIS data as the "official" name of things outside of the federal executive's own activities is itself just a matter of convention.


Makes me wonder, has North Korea or Iran made an equivalent declaration about naming the USA "사탄의 겨드랑이" or "زیر بغل شیطان"?

(Google Translate from "Satan's armpit").

I mean, if temper tantrums by the supreme executive are allowed and all.


It seems that there are 363,123 `official_name:` tags in OSM [1], and the discussion thread hints that at least some* of them are due to naming disputes. Given (according to the thread) no-one actually renders the tag on their maps, using that tag in this case seems like a good policy.

[1]: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/official_name#overvie...


Or a future president renaming Mar-a-lago as Epstein's Resort... this opens the door to all kinds of petty behavior.


He should've renamed New Mexico to New America. I read a while back the state name causes confusion amongst those who think it's part of Mexico.

And while he's at it, Georgia could become Trumpia to avoid confusion with the nation of the same name. (Why even do you have a state named after the granddad of the king you fought off?)

But I guess those might accidentally be useful, so of course he's not going to do them. :P


North Korea has all sort of nasty names ready to throw at America, South Korea, or others, though at least I think they're just name-calling, not considering them as "official" names. (So, in a twisted sense, even North Korea is more adult-like than Trump. I guess that's another cause of celebration for some HN commenters who look up to Trump for being the manly leader who boldly does the right thing that nobody else dares to do.)

Thankfully, North Korea's antics doesn't matter, because nobody is trying to sell map service to North Koreans anyway.


I think Hoyerswerda was chosen for a reason: funding money should not always go to the big city and so they thought why not built it where Konrad Zuse went to school? It kind of makes sense...


I get the idea, but it was probably unrealistic to expect that Hoyerswerda would become a pilgrimage location for geeks. It is a real periphery from the point of view of DE, CZ and PL alike, and the museum didn't really do much to let itself known either. 30 thousand visitors yearly is 100 daily, that is quite a lot. You'd need to be known around the entire Central Europe to hope to reach such numbers.

I like exhibitions of this sort and I might have taken the 500 km long trip to see Zuse's museum, if I knew about it. I am only learning now.


From the point of view of PL it is now perfect. Directly connected by Eurocity train but only since a year or so.

> the museum didn't really do much to let itself known either

Sure. But you can only do so much with probably not even a handful people and limited budget...


The bulk of Polish population is concentrated elsewhere and the closest big cities (Szczecin, Poznan, Wroclaw) are all more than 200 km away. Warsaw or Upper Silesia, with its masses of people, twice as far.

I wouldn't call this perfect...


It is still a shame that the city which called itself Zuse-City does not try harder to keep it. I know how hard their financing situation is first hand but the ZCOM as a place and education institute was more worth then they understood.


There were a few articles before that too. E.g. the currently linked heise article is from June.


Interesting that this pops up on HN. It was a real nice spot and I'm sad that it goes away. They had really nice holiday activities for kids, but also for adults and elderly. E.g. I myself tried VR the second time in one of the rooms from ZCOM.

I especially enjoyed ZCOM when at one point the Fabmobil visited them and I learned a couple of nice people. Not only computer hacking people but also craftsmans etc too.

Also a couple of times the ZCOM gave us space for our computer club (PPP, rip) in the hope we can benefit from each other. But unfortunately the interests stick to a few great "hardcore" people only, although we offered great and free pizza ;)

Fun times. Not even too long ago...


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