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americans pretending they aren't immigrants by using the term expat always cracks me up


The terms "expat" and "immigrant" are not synonyms. There is a material semantic distinction in American English.

Most Americans that live overseas tend to be expats rather than immigrants. Those two terms don't convey the same meaning.


whatever makes Americans feel better about being immigrants or migrant workers is fine by me


Expats have to pay taxes in their home country. The US is very difficult to temporarily not be in.


It's not fine by you, since you brought attention to it.


a person who temporarily or permanently lives and works in a country other than their native country. I mean, some Mexicans and other latin americans go to the US to make money and buy a home back in their countries. And still by they're not called expats?


For me, expat implies a temporary stay, often tied to your job.


I guess I think of "expat" as a possibly-temporary state where full assimilation is not the goal. American expats also pay American taxes unless they give up US citizenship.

Technically of course you are right.


> American expats also pay American taxes unless they give up US citizenship.

Practically, they barely pay anything significant.

The lower net salary in Europe / Asia associated with rather high local tax means that most Americans citizens oversea barely own anything significant back to the state.

However it does remain an annoyance to fill the tax declaration every year: I know several American who chose to give up their citizenahip just to avoid this specific issue.


I'm not sure I follow. I am a US citizen and have never lived abroad, but my understanding is that US Citizens living abroad must still pay the US a full federal income tax. It's graduated/progressive, of course, so the actual percentage may vary, but it should probably be between 15% and 40% of income. Not what I would call small. I don't think they can deduct local taxes, can they?


Many countries have tax treaties with the US, and there’s also the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE), which excludes up to 132.9k of foreign income; so many US citizens abroad will indeed pay no US income taxes.


That is mostly only true if you have no significant investments. If you have investments, the tax situation is not good as an American even under tax treaties.

If you are normal wage slave with limited savings then yes the exclusions mostly work.


There's a huge exclusion.

The 2026 Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) allows qualifying U.S. expats to exclude up to $132,900 of foreign-earned income from their U.S. federal income taxes. Married couples can exclude up to $265,800 if both spouses work abroad and each meets the eligibility requirements.


Thanks! I did not know that. That changes a lot.


americans pretending they aren't refugees by using the term expat is almost too ironic.


if you're living where you were born, how can you be an expat?


"When we looked inside he saw that what was said of them was true of him as well. So it was either rage or weep; and so he raged."


the amount of people who are middle class with a second home is rare. if you can afford another dwelling, you can pay more tax on it. lets not be this disconnected.


its a fun place to buy games though


saying infinity is a mathematical symbol we can observe is simplifying it way too much, all mathematical symbols are abstractions.

i can observe two apples. i cannot observe infinity apples.


Mathematical concepts don't have to have an obviously physical analogue. I mean, you'd find it difficult to observe minus two apples and certainly tricky to observe i apples.

To my mind, maths is like a "what if?" puzzle and whether or not infinity makes sense in the physical world, there's still fun to be had by considering the consequences of it.

That also means that it can be interesting to consider limited number systems which don't have any concept of infinity.


Can you observe 2.34 x 10^456789 apples?


No. I believe that is more apples than there are atoms in the universe, so not only it is impossible to observe, it is a fundamental contradiction with our universal reality. No one and nothing will ever be able to observe or interact that many apples, and so a reference to that many apples is only an abstract mathematical convenience that has no direct bearing to reality.

Like infinity.

I'm not sure I actually believe that, I'm just thinking out loud. But it leads me to think the question "Does infinity exist?" should be answered with the question "An infinity of what?"


You say that as if we knew the number of atoms in the universe, or its size, age, and "duration".

But none of this can be observed either, which in my book makes your argument a bit weak.

Your "universal reality" is a construction relying in big parts on the mathematics relying on infinity as a concept.


Some might say that 2 is as made up as infinity. Let me elaborate a little - your brain together with society made an abstraction "apple", and only by not distinguishing between these "sets" of atoms you can have numbers.


> some might say

Well do you say it or are you just playing devils advocate? The post you are responding to seems very straightforward.

If you wanna go all philosophical, “real” might just be anything that is useful. In that way infinity is real because you can use it to do calculus. On the other hand, there are ways of doing calculus that do not involve thinking about infinity. But if you’re gonna count to three apples you pretty much have to go through “two” no matter what.


i dont disagree. but there is a difference between great design and entirely acceptable and shippable design.


you can always fire it up yourself and see what its all about. in my experience it generates a lot of code very quickly, that code is probably only ever supposed to be LLM maintained, not by people.


I don't think the op meant Gas Town itself (if they did, my bad), but what has Yegge done with Gas Town? By now it should have released some amazing thing if Gas Town increases productivity so much.


What has Yegge done with Gas Town? Well for one, he has posted a bunch of blog content about it which has generated chatter like this and increased his geek mindshare.

Just because he's operating in the realm of smart nerds doesn't mean he is immune to the value-inverting effects of social media.


Don't forget: also using his name and the project to pump some speculative crypto nonsense of which he was a beneficiary.

How anybody takes him (or the Ralph Wiggum guy who did the same) seriously after this is beyond me. These people should be exiled


He's now tried to create a board of a bunch of Gas Towns called "The Wasteland": https://wasteland.gastownhall.ai/

(btw I've been wondering the same thing as you and am not sure if there's another answer besides that he and people following his projects keep building projects on their projects: Beads, to Gas Town, to Wasteland, etc.)


>doesn't mean he is immune to the value-inverting effects of social media.

Or those of hype, e.g. AI hype.


I think the main thing he's produced using Gas Town is Gas Town itself.


> you can always fire it up yourself and see what its all about

I imagine it doesn't run very cheaply.


Name checks out


> that code is probably only ever supposed to be LLM maintained, not by people.

But LLMs are trying to mimic people. So if confusion is the human response, what's to stop the llm from acting confused?


A mechanical ability to look at the code without having a judgement.


what are you even talking about? they arent suppressing free speech, they are leaving a platform. this might be the most bot-like response ive ever seen, if youre not a bot then go outside, read a book, just log off my goodness.


oh wow you were not kidding


in general these types of attacks are still difficult to solve, because there are a lot of different ways they can be formulated. llm based security is still and unknown, but mostly i have seen people using intermediary steps to parse question intent and return canned responses if the question seems outside the intended modality.


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