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You can tell it's Claude only from reading the H2 tags on the page.

> What happens on October 19

> If you're close to a limit

> What changes and what doesn't


Doubt it. When someone can go to Astra MD for 75% of what they used to go to the doctor for, then the remaining doctors only have 25% as many visits. When doctors only have 25% as many visits, they have to compete on price and they make less per visit.

Same argument for plumbers. Everyone always jokes about what a good time it is to be a plumber. But what happens when all the software engineers turn to plumbing? Suddenly it's not such a good time to be a plumber anymore.


What happens when the AI makes a mistake with a diagnosis? I can hear it now 'Oh how perceptive you are, yes that pain in your knee could have been a torn meniscus'.

Eagerly awaiting your robot plumbing startup. I highly doubt anything in plumbing is compute-limited.

> 7. It's another process that can slow down viewing a webpage

I guess.. just like how wearing a seatbelt could end up killing you. Doesn't mean the exact opposite isn't a million times more likely.


This is so stupid. This makes it like, a thousand times harder to fake a photo than it would otherwise be. You pedants imagining a way to fake it doesn't change that.

> This makes it like, a thousand times harder to fake a photo than it would otherwise be.

The problem with this thinking is twofold:

1) Whether it actually meaningfully increases the difficulty of a forgery remains to be seen. Despite their initial language about discerning real events, we see no details here about what scene information is used.

2) It increases the potential value of a forgery because now your forgery is attested by Apple.

So it either makes it easier to defraud people or more worthwhile to put in the effort to defraud people or both. None of those outcomes are great.


> Whether it actually meaningfully increases the difficulty of a forgery remains to be seen.

Then maybe let’s save those criticisms until this is in the hands of knowledgeable people who can actually test? I mean, I’m no fan of the direction Apple has gone under Tim Cook, but all else being equal I’m inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt that they may have thought this through over the time it took to build more than a random person speculating on HN who just read a blog post for the first time.

> (…) we see no details here about what scene information is used.

And you assume that everything in a post is the sum total of how it works?

> It increases the potential value of a forgery

By that token, should we also not be adding forgery deterrents to ID cards and bills? After all, if you can fake the preventive measures, “it increases the potential value of a forgery”.


You worry that a technology that you have never used nor evaluated might not work in practice...

Therefore because of your worry (which is based on remarkably little information), it's a bad technology?

Come the fuck on. That's beyond luddite bullshit.


> because of your worry (which is based on remarkably little information)

You must be new around here. ;-)




Being right twice isn’t a crime

> Let's spend 13 billion to save 100 million

It's not like they didn't get anything of value for that 13 billion


I’ve yet to get any concept of 13B from HF.

Every single thing you mentioned will be completely automated soon. 10 years max. Likely way less. That's my prediction at least.

Then it comes down to cost of compute. Are companies going to add a multiplier on their compute costs to reach a platform with no users? It's still the same problem.

Obligatory RIP Windows Phone. I can't help but think about where it would have been today if they'd just stuck with it.

Nokia might still be making phones and with a better OS (MeeGo) too.

Meh, I don't think it's so clear cut. It's so much worse than the AI that all of us are used to using, that's it's not worth using as AI. And it's now much slower at the few tasks it used to be good at (phone calls, timers, etc..)

So while yes, I would say overall it is much more powerful than it used to be, it still sits in the "every few reasons to use it" bucket for me. I'd sooner just reach for Grok/Chat/Claude

edit: keep in mind this is my experience over several months of beta. I haven't installed the public release yet.


People on HN are, of course, going to pretend that moving from Michael Jordan to Dylan Mulvaney and whoever that overweight "Own The Floor" lady aren't a huge downgrade. Wearing Nike became kind of embarrassing.

A normal well adjusted person would be embarrassed to wear any advertising.

I certainly won’t be wearing Nike anymore because of it. I’m clearly not the target audience.

Honestly, I suspect most people will have no idea about these ads. I know I don’t.

Maybe if you were hiding under a rock.

Even Jaguar was tremendously impacted by their woke ads.


Maybe I have been. And how was Jaguar impacted? I haven’t seen a Jaguar ad in a decade, and almost as long one of their cars.

Jaguar implemented a fairly radical change to their product line, getting rid of all their existing cars, and announcing, but not actually releasing, a new car. As a result, they do not currently sell cars (which, ah, explains the drop in sales that the person you're replying to is going on about); they'll release a new car next month. This is a fairly extreme tactic, but honestly maybe better than just waiting to die, as they had previously been doing.

They also made an ad which a lot of the likes of Musk got very pissy about, for reasons I'm not entirely clear on. Some right wing internet weirdos have claimed that Jaguar's reduction in sales is due to the ad, as opposed to the fact that, just to reiterate, you cannot buy a new car from Jaguar today, because they no longer manufacture any of the cars that they used to sell. This is obviously an extremely stupid claim, but then "extremely stupid" is kinda the far-right twitterati's _thing_.


If you are not entirely clear on the reasons, look for the ad and you will become entirely clear instantly!

I mean, you say "even Jaguar". Jaguar has essentially been a dead brand walking for well over a decade. They're currently trying a fairly radical reorientation, which, well, hard to see it _working_, but probably beats just shutting it down, which is probably where it was otherwise heading.

You mention sales plummeting. This is, ah, unsurprising; Jaguar currently doesn't really sell cars (they stopped making the old ones late last year, and the new one doesn't launch til next month). This is a company with an obsolete product line which nobody wants dispensing with it in favour of a new product which they think people might want.


> soon

Always soon. But soon never seems to come. I'm sure we'll all be cooked any day now.


Not sure on which planet you're living, but we are being cooked already.

Really? Because I'm doing quite alright. But I guess you belong to one of those religions that wants people to not trust their own eyes.

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